Ged Sumner and Steve Haines in Conversation, March 2018, Calgary

Part 2: About Body Intelligence, Transcript

 

‘One of the things we’re really good at is a really down-to-earth, a stripped-down version of biodynamics, really focusing on simple and practical interventions that work consistently.’ Steve Haines

 

‘What we do in the course is empower people to feel confident about treating a whole range of clients, so they can go out there and actually do that, and have a full-mixed practice with all kinds of people.’ Ged Sumner

 

Steve:  Ged, Body Intelligence is huge now, isn’t it?

Ged:    Yes.

Steve:  In over 40 cities, been going for 10 years. We’ve rocked out a lot of graduates. What do you think are the core things about body intelligence?

Ged:    I think it has gone through a beautiful evolution, from the first training back in 2008. I like what we do in terms of that we’re constantly tweaking the program and obviously we’ve changed some bits quite powerfully. I like the: “Let’s orient to the neuroendocrine-immune system,” I think that’s one of the big fixtures of the course. You might not say that in some of the seminars, but it’s an underlying process, really. It’s just such a powerful place.

Steve:  It fits with your model of fluidity as one of the central features.

Ged:    Totally.

Steve:  Not just the nervous system, but a fluid chemical milieu where cells communicate and processes stream. I agree, that’s a big part of what we teach. What are the other key features?

Ged:    Simplicity of touch. We’ve really honed-down what we do in touch fairly well. There’s a lot more to go, but the orientation to felt sense awareness and getting people to come into connection with all of that through a whole series of exercises has spearheaded the way into the practitioner embodying in a very quick and powerful way.

I’m actually amazed at how quickly people do it. Go away, do a few felt sense awareness exercises, and then suddenly people are breathing better, walking better, and thinking better. It’s quite amazing. You need that in the practitioner, don’t you, really?

Steve:  Yeah. One of the things we’re really good at, one of the things I’ve learnt from being around you, is a really down-to-earth, a stripped-down version of biodynamics, really focusing on simple and practical interventions that work consistently.

I always say one of my biggest learning experiences was running a student clinic with you. We had a big room, a screen in the middle, and it was chaotic. Not your normal middle-class people coming for cranial work, but people from a housing estate who have smoked too much, drank too much; and had really difficult, challenging lives. In the chaos – students were there, you could hear what was going on – we did really beautiful work without having some of the things that can be associated with cranial work. It can feel a little precious sometimes trying to create a certain space; whereas this is: Be safe in your body right now and we can be safe in a relationship, whatever the chaos around us. That real ability to find that ground is a simple quality: Let’s just touch, feel, explore, and play with that, without needing to worry too much about strange biomechanics or worrying to much about expanded notions of spirituality. It’s just: Let’s touch, and feel, and explore.

Ged:    I’m the same as you. That emphasis on clinical work, clinical practice and treating real people who are out there with all kinds of health issues and struggles in their lives – I love the way this therapy can meet people where they’re at, whatever is going on for them.

I like the way we always talk about different case studies and these different clients you might come in contact with, right from acute to chronic; people coming in with Parkinson’s or coming in with a bit of a lower-back issue – it works for all those things.

What we do in the course is empower people to feel confident about treating a whole range of clients, so they can go out there and actually do that, and have a full-mixed practice with all kinds of people.

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